Josiah Carlson ([info]chouyu_31) wrote,
@ 2008-03-18 08:54:00
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Adventures in software RAID, take 2
It seems that at some point, Windows XP really stopped liking to boot. When it didn't hang while scanning USB for floppy/cd rom drives, it would restart after hitting 'mup.sys' (thank you boot logging to the console). The advice available seemed to be generally lacking in anything except "try unplugging USB" or "try disabling cache to update your bios/patch your OS". I don't really know what to say about what went wrong, but I don't care, XP didn't work quite right. It seemed to choke after the first set of 3 updates after installing SP2. Before that, it worked. After that (and also after enabling the raid mirror), it didn't. Maybe it's RAID, maybe it's the patches, I don't know.

In looking around, it seems that almost everything that supports 2k and XP also supports 2003, so I gave that a shot this morning. There was some silliness where 2003 decided it would add an entry to the 2k's boot.ini, making 2003's boot drive 'G', etc., but I'll disable the drive in the BIOS and reinstall this evening (it's maybe 30-40 minutes when I don't install drivers, etc.). RAID is definitely available in 2003, and any SATA card available at Fry's supports 2003.

One interesting thing is that even after I installed the Intel chipset drivers, XP refused to copy disk to disk faster than 33 megs/second (this is using PATA and mirror building), suggesting that I don't have the correct drivers for enabling ATA/133 support on the motherboard (despite installing the drivers from Dell). I guess I'll have to go straight to Intel. Also, Windows XP does not actually support > 128 gig volumes from a slipstreamed SP2 installation CD; uck (2003 sees the full drive without issue).


So far I have noticed that RAID is far more difficult to get working than it really should be.


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[info]cyiton
2008-03-18 07:38 pm UTC (link)
I don't think it's that difficult at all... The problem looks to me that you are trying to do it in an OS. My current motherboard supports Raid 1,2 & 5; so have my last 3. If you get an actual Raid-based Sata card, it will too; you have the option to set up the array in the card's bios (which prompts on boot), and Windblows only ever sees it as a single drive. You don't have to be bothered with all this beating your head against a wall. Such adapters can be had for around $60.

Also, if you're using a PCI card, your drive speeds will largely be limited by that interface; PCI-E will prevent the bottleneck but is a bit more pricey.

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[info]chouyu_31
2008-03-18 08:21 pm UTC (link)
I had been trying to do it with the operating system so that if the hardware dies (it happens), I can recover with software.

At this point I have a few options that *wont* require a controller purchase (I only have possibly 1 free PCI slot, if I remove the currently unused Dynex wireless card, and no free PCI express slots):

1. Use Windows 2003 RAID on boot and data drives (2xPATA boot, 2xSATA data).
2. Use Windows XP RAID on data drives, backup software for boot drive (1xPATA boot, 1xPATA backup, 2xSATA data).
3. Use motherboard RAID on data drives, backup software for boot drive (1xPATA boot, 1xPATA backup, 2xSATA data).

I think I'm going to go with option #3. If at some point I want to add more drives, I can get a PCI SATA card with 4 ports and call it good.

Still, OS-level RAID shouldn't be this difficult. I imagine that Windows 2003 would just work with raid, which is nice, but 2000 and XP should have come with it as well. The real pisser is that only Vista Ultimate comes with Raid enabled. How's that for annoying?

Also, backing up 350 gigs worth of data to a USB2 device sucks (the controller in my motherboard seems to be limited to 25 megs/second).

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[info]chouyu_31
2008-03-18 09:49 pm UTC (link)
Wait, there's a PCI express slot at the far bottom of the motherboard that was hiding from me. Hrm... Multiple future upgrade paths :)

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[info]cyiton
2008-03-19 10:20 pm UTC (link)
yea, that's microsoft for you... It shouldn't be that hard; especially for 2k pro or xp pro which are supossed to be for office/tech/workstation use.

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