Josiah Carlson ([info]chouyu_31) wrote,
@ 2008-01-18 09:57:00
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39 degree air + 59 degree water + 7AM sunrise = damn beautiful + omfg cold

Update:
Regarding me being Minnesotan and being cold: mind you, my feet and body were warm (good boots and wetsuit), but my hands* and head were in and out of the water, thus were wet, and were in a constant 10 mph wind, causing more or less continuous evaporation. Wind-chill is one thing, wet wind-chill is yet another. Thanks to our friend chemistry, we know it takes more energy to evaporate salt water than regular water, resulting in more effective cooling of wet hands and head. Never mind the ocean spray, ...

When it gets to be 40-50 degrees, I encourage all of you mocking Minnesotans to sit in the passenger seat of a car while a friend drives around with the window down at 10mph, while you spray one hand with a spray bottle (tap water will be fine for this experiment), ensuring a more or less constant wetness, for an hour.

Alternatively, find a walk-in fridge, bring a fan and a spray bottle, and conduct the same experiment.

If you don't have a spray bottle, you can bring a bowl of water and dip your hand in and out every few seconds to simulate me paddling, with a 1-2 minute rest every 2 minutes (out of the water in the wind).

After doing either of these experiments, and not experiencing your hand being cold, please contact me then to call me a wimp. Until then, I stand by my claim that my hands and head were 'omfg cold', and will call all dissenting comments 'uninformed' ;) . Also, I know that at least two of the authors of comments are chemists, so should know how much energy it takes to evaporate water, and what that means to exposed flesh.

* I do have webbed gloves, but they offer zero protection against the elements thanks to the 1/2mm fabric, causing my hands to stay wet all the time.


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[info]lyght
2008-01-18 06:23 pm UTC (link)
Those of us who retain a connection to our Minnesota heritage laugh heartily at your idea of "cold."

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[info]sylunethesigher
2008-01-18 06:45 pm UTC (link)
I'm sayin'. My -19o windchill laughs at your 39o air, Mr. California.

Edited at 2008-01-18 06:45 pm UTC

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[info]gunn
2008-01-18 06:45 pm UTC (link)
Steam does equate to pretty, but nearly 40° is not cold.

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[info]amethysteh
2008-01-18 07:55 pm UTC (link)
I agree with everyone above.... you used to be a MINNESOTAN!! The high this morning was 12.... and that was at midnight. By 7am it was 8.... now it is 1 and the windchill is -20. :-)

Wuss.

Congrats on the PhD and I hope that your life is going well... happy Friday and don't forget to bundle up in that 39 degree weather. ;-)

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[info]avatarofchaos
2008-01-18 09:45 pm UTC (link)
ok, i was all like "dude, that's not cold" and then i was like..."hmm...maybe he's IN THE WATER? WHO THE FUCK GOES IN WATER THAT'S THAT COLD!"

then i saw your update, and was like, "oh yes. that makes more sense."

and felt the need to post.

...and use gratuitous caps, as is my want.

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[info]chouyu_31
2008-01-19 12:21 am UTC (link)
59 degree water isn't that bad (the occasional splash down the suit is actually quite nice, refreshing even), but only when the air is 55 degrees or better.

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[info]avatarofchaos
2008-01-19 01:03 am UTC (link)
i don't go in the water if air temp is below 70. it's just a little rule i have, born of ZOMG TOO COLD.

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[info]chouyu_31
2008-01-19 12:22 am UTC (link)
Also, my body and feet were just fine, it was my hands and head that were cold (though my hands were significantly colder than my head).

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[info]susanofstohelit
2008-01-19 12:40 am UTC (link)
everybody going to the packer game at lambeau this weekend is going to be sitting on metal bleachers with an air temp high of -1. thbbbt!

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[info]chouyu_31
2008-01-19 01:16 am UTC (link)
Any non-foolish fan will also be bringing a pillow (for their bum), coat, hat, scarf, blanket, etc. Also, it won't be raining or snowing on them.

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[info]amethysteh
2008-01-21 12:54 am UTC (link)
I retract my previous comment after realizing from your update that you were IN the water. I thought you were merely stating the temperature of the water for our benefit.

:-)

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[info]chouyu_31
2008-01-21 01:56 am UTC (link)
Accepted retraction :)

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